Looking at Seduction Community Roots

I was having a conversation with some guys about the seduction community this past Saturday night.

These were guys that had read up on a bunch of material, read “The Game”, etc.  We were sharing our thoughts on the techniques mentioned in that book and a lot of the techniques that have come and gone in the seduction community.Looking at Seduction Community Roots

I want to make a comment about the seduction community and how it came to be.  The seduction community started out during the late 80′s/early 90′s.  Feminism was rampant and the pendulum of political correctness had swung WAAAY over to an almost anti-male sentiment.  I feel like there are still some lingering after-effects of that time even today, but for the most part, the era of extreme male bashing and feminazism has past.

Still, it was during that time that Speed Seduction came to be.  In fact, as Neil Strauss mentions in “The Game”, that was also the time when the internet was beginning to form.  It didn’t look like the internet we know today, but nerdy kids like me can remember the days of BBS (Bulletin Board Systems), Echo-mail and Newsgroups.

This atmosphere helped form a cohesion among men wanting to improve their skills with women.  Think about it.  Men were afraid to speak frankly about wanting to be successful with women at that time because it was socially spat upon.  Moreover, I have to imagine that a good deal of men felt angry and resentful about how unfair that atmosphere was.

Being able to sit in front of a computer and ask questions with anonymity was a big plus.  In fact, not only did it give men an opportunity to learn… it was also an opportunity for guys to vent about their feelings.  Again, venting about relationship issues at that time was not looked upon well.

Now, it was Ross Jeffries of  Speed Seduction that created the original newsgroup alt.seduction.fast.  As such, since the general atmosphere at the time was to avoid getting caught up in “political correctness” or “feminism” traps, it makes sense that a product like Speed Seduction (circa early 90s) would be very attractive to audiences – it was marketed as a way to communicate in a covert way that would get guys laid.  Ross has since evolved his work to be more holistic, but in terms of how the general marketing of seduction materials goes, this was the heart of it.

As time went on, more seduction teachers came out of the woodwork.  For the most part, these were guys from California/Los Angeles, they all knew each other (many of them studied under prior teachers/seduction figures) and products began to launch.  Companies began to spring up.  I imagine that these guys looked at the other teachers (who they knew personally) and they said to themselves, “I could do that…”

Don’t get me wrong.  A lot of good things have come out of having more products in the playing field.  I do think that talking about how these things come about is a useful part on being able to really succeed in the game.  The reason I say this is because I think that times have changed, but the product base and the marketing has not.

Why would it?  It’s making money for the people selling it – if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

Still, speaking from my personal experience, my real success didn’t start into I learned how to break out of a lot of what was taught and innovate my own stuff.  There’s no reason to jump through hoops if the hoops that once existed don’t exist anymore! I believe that women are way more comfortable about being openly sexual than they used to be.  Moreover, I think the stigma that once existed about men being sexual is gone now – if anything, I think women are starving for more ballsy men to appear and sweep them off their feet.

Legend and I have spent a lot of time behind the scenes hashing out a game plan that is outside of what has been established so far in the realm of the seduction community or pick-up products in general.  There’s no reason to burn down Rome and rebuild it or to reinvent the wheel, but I certainly believe it is time to revolutionize the curriculum of improving with women and I am all for being the one to take up the challenge.

More to come…  And by the way, we just made an announcement on the newsletter, so get on there if you aren’t already.